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line in terms of fiscal cliff spending and revenue raised in the next three weeks, and, yes, that's at the end of the month. they'll get through that, but, again, you want to have leverage when you have that conversation. that leverage is going to, i think, hinge off of what you were saying, and i think you're right. boehner has probably the better hand to play here given that really there's not a strong hand, but it's a better hand than what he otherwise would have in terms of negotiations. if he is just allowed get in the room and negotiate the deal because he knows he has all these other, you know, arrows in his quiver that he can use. >> i just -- i think it's hopeful that they went -- that he went to the white house yesterday and almost kind of hopeful that at least everybody is agreeing not to say anything, as opposed to leaking bad news. really quickly, jonathan, the president is going to michigan, and he will be -- well, he is there en route now. the right to work law in michigan could be signed as early, i believe, finalized as early as tomorrow. what is the president owe
men left standing between all of us and the fiscal cliff. in 25 days america goes over the edge. that's when severe tax hikes and cuts in spending begin. according to the "new york times," john boehner has asked democratic leaders to step aside so he and the president can attempt to negotiate a deal one-on-one and no one is objecting. paul steinhauser is live from washington. paul, you got some new polling for us. what do americans want to see in a deal? >> it's interesting what they want to see and what they don't want to see. one of the biggest sticking points between democrats and republicans over averting the fiscal cliff is raising taxes on those making over $250,000 a year. look at this from quinnipiac university, the question was asked are you okay with that? 65% say they support such a move to avert the fiscal cliff. this is the third poll over the last two weeks to show the same thing, that most americans are okay with raising those taxes on incomes over $250,000 a year. go to the next screen, there's a partisan divide here. this explains why most republicans are dead set aga
to discuss the fiscal cliff tug-of-war is a democrat from new york state, senior house of the financial services committee, representative meeks, good to have you with us. let's turn to entitlement spending. that is of high importance in solving the fiscal cliff negotiations and in a longer term way bringing the country to a sustainable fiscal course. what specific changes to medicare or medicaid would you be willing to imbraes today right new that would slow the growth in our medical spenting? >> i'm not going to debate the specifics on television. i think that what the president is doing, is clear that he has indicated that we have to raise the tax rate. the tax rates, bush tax cuts, was temporary in nature. >> that's not what i asked. i asked what specific would you be willing to do to address what is clearly the number one thing that is going to blow the hole in not only the economy but federal spending, federal budget over the next generation. >> what we have to do is negotiate. everything should be on the table. i think the president indicated that everything would be on the table
to go over the fiscal cliff, to use that terminology, something will happen before year end. hopefully, a comprehensive package that solves our nation's problems and then, later, next year we deal with tax reforms in a revenue-neutral way. but i do not want to see us -- go ahead, i'll stop. >> chris: let me bring in senator schumer. and, this goes beyond simply the question of this deal. why should congress give up its constitutional authority over borrowing? you know, we looked at your record, when george w. bush was president, and you voted at least three times against increasing the debt limit. why would congress unilaterally give up that power? >> well the bottom line is, i think on debt ceilings, things have shifted. i don't agree with my good friend, bob corker on the issue. i think it shift the way it has on taxes and we just saw that. senator mcconnell put on the floor a resolution that said, it was his idea, not ours, that let the president raise the debt ceiling, after all it is money congress already spent, and, let congress, by 2/3, override it. he thought we democrats woul
of the fiscal cliff. and most of the cuts in spending, except for defense and the president sees no interest in having a strong defense and we'll litigate that next year and there are opportunities to debate the spending, defense and entitlement issues next year, get the tax issue off the table, the weakest one for the republicans and let the president own it -- >> end with a wimper, not a bang. >> yes, could be. >> chris: there you go, see you next week, don't forget, check out panel plus where our group picks up right with the discussion on our web site, foxnewssunday.com and we'll post the video before noon eastern time and follow us on twitter. @foxnewssunday. this program note: tune into fox news channel tonight at 9:00 p.m. eastern for "fly me to the moon" anchored by neil cavuto it marks the 40th anniversary of the last time man walked on the lunar surface. up next on "final thoughts." about my best friend. ♪ i'm a conservative investor. i invest in what i know. i turned 65 last week. i'm getting married. planning a life. there are risks, sure. but, there's no reward without it. i w
the board spending cuts. here with the very latest on the fiscal cliff showdown and america's fragile economy is the former new york city mayor rudy giuliani. how are you? >> how are you, sean? good to see you. >> sean: i just like to learn from people that have done successful things, you took how many people off of welfare when you were mayor? >> 600,000. >> what was the deficit when you became mayor? >> $2.3 billion. >> sean: and the debt? >> staggering. >> 600,000 off welfare, and -- >> we did it by my taking a report that asked me to raise taxes and throw in the garbage. the report said you have to raise taxes across the board. said nothing about reducing spending. i said to myself -- i wasn't an economic expert then. i became one after being mayor of new york. i said this doesn't make sense. if i raise taxes now, i have to do it again in two years, then four years, because i'm losing the tax base. people will leave. i'll try something different. i'll try to lower taxes, lower spending. i can't lower taxes too much at the beginning, but just a little bit, lower spending. i lowere
for him. if he goes off to hawaii and spends three weeks there, and no deal happens and the fiscal cliff hits and we've got the largest tax increase in history and the markets plummet and he's sitting over there splashing in the surf, i don't think he can do it. >> i wonder what other nations think about us? this is, you know, is it a terrible problem we are going through right now, but we look like we can't handle our own business. we can't talk to each other, we can't figure out our own economics, and i can't think what kind of morale authority do we have in the world when we look so pathetic, so pathetic in terms of how we handle things and the fact that we don't? >> the problem with the american people is today they are -- greta, they are as deeply divided and polarized as we have almost ever been. look what boehner is could go right now in making a deal. he's violates his fundamental principles. he's violatings a commitment he made to the american people. he's doing something that he thinks will hurt the american economy, $800 million of tax on job creators, he's splitting his party
the president to come up with a plan for spending cuts and tax revenue to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff we're talking so much b. otherwise we know there will be automatic tax hikes. there are also the spending cuts that kick in starting in january. the pentagon will bear the brunt of the automatic spending cuts. some republicans say mandatory cuts are better than no cuts at all and we should put defense spending on the chopping block to accomplish the long-term goal of reducing the deficit. joining me now oklahoma congressman james langford, his second term in congress. what do you think about that, some suggesting this is in a political article that the republicans are foresee questions tracing if that is the only way to cut the debt and deficit. >> the challenge of it is this is really part sue of the debt ceiling debate we had last summer. we wanted a strategic plan to reduce the spending. the house passed that in may. we had an outlined plan to reduce spending. we had no answer from them. the see questions station wa sequestration was the last report. i haven't been in congress a longt
and house speaker john boehner talked by phone today about the so-called fiscal cliff-- those tax hikes for most americans and massive spending cuts that will kick in the first of the year unless two strike a budget deal. a republican source tells us that the president has cut his demand for more tax revenue from $1.6 trillion to $1.4 trillion, but the source said that the lower figure is no more acceptable to republicans. but the negotiations continue in private. the united states has a lot at stake in the syrian civil war. president obama has suggested that american firepower might be needed to prevent the dictatorship from using chemical weapons. we've learned that tomorrow the administration will endorse one of the rebel groups that is now fighting to overthrow bashar al- assad. who are these new american allies? clarissa ward found their leader in brussels. >> reporter: moaz al-khatib is the man chosen to lead a newly formed coalition of syria's opposition groups. what does it mean to be recognized by the u.s.? "the u.s. administration has big influence globally" he told us. "a ste
on this fiscal cliff which has automatic tax hikes and spending cuts as of january one, they are trying to avert that. he says any deal on this must include an end to the debt ceiling all together. he wants complete power to raise the country's limit by himself. he doesn't want to have to get congressional approval. that is a demand stirring strong response from republicans today. >> the on way we ever cut spending is by using the debate over the debt limit to do it. now the president wants to remove that spur to cut all together. of course, it gets in the way of his spending plans. i can assure you it one happen. the american people want washington to get spending under control and the debt limit is the best tool we have to make the president take that demand seriously. the american people want us to fight to cut spending. it's a fight they deserve and a fight we are happy to have. >> joining me now, simon rosenberg. and mark theisen. guys, welcome. simon, let me start with you on this. we did have some democrats come on the show and say no, the president doesn't get to just decide when to rais
if it appears likely we're going to go over the fiscal cliff and not meet the december 31nd deadline. me? i think that is a great development. finally cut some government waste and spending. oh, my goodness. meanwhile a black box data recorder revealed former new jersey governor jon corzine was doing 91 miles per hour in a 65 mile zone and he didn't have his seat belt on. and all that was contrary to what he first told us. why should all cars have the same kind of black box to settle lawsuits and find out who is lying? first up president obama heads to detroit monday. that's his first visit there in nearly months. this is mayor wing has just announced hundreds of layoffs in an effort to stave off the possible bankruptcy. but i don't think it's nearly enough. let's find out. joining me is detroit radio host doc thompson, wxyt talk radio. okay, doc, as i understand it you tell me if i'm wrong. about 11,000 detroit city workers and mayor bing is cutting 4 to 500. i'm not impressed with that. i think he should be cutting 20% of the workforce, not 5%. >> no, you're absolutely right, larry. the p
cliff. >> there's a real simple correlation. people have jobs, they spend money. if people are worried about losing their jobs or don't have a job, then they're not going to go out that much. they're going to cook at home or stay at home. >> reporter: just a couple miles from the pentagon, many of the patrons here work directly or indirectly for the defense department and its contractors. the defense industry is facing $55 billion in discretionary spending cuts next year. unless congress acts to avert the so-called fiscal cliff. in addition, several key tax benefits are scheduled to expire at the end of the year that will have a direct impact on the pocketbooks of many americans. take a couple with one child living in new york earning $100,000. their tax rate jumps from 25% to 28%. they could be hit by the alternative minimum tax. the child tax credit drops from $1,000 to $500, and payroll taxes could be $2,000 more next year. for a single 25-year-old in michigan who works for time earning $30,000 a year and going to school part time, his tax rate would stay the same at 15%, but he wou
will be raising taxes. we will be cutting spending. you say that even if we go over the fiscal cliff, you do not think the markets will "fall out of bed." clearly, there is some volatility there. >> i lose sleep at night on a number of things. i do not lose that much sleep that night and having the fiscal cliff go into 2013. quite honestly, and, i think i'll falling off the cliff is probably the wrong metaphor, what it ultimately does is takes hot water and turns on the heat. we are sitting in the water. the clock will be taking. we need it resolved. the longer it is not resolved the more of an effect it will have on our economy. if they ultimately come up with an agreement sometime mid-january, i don't think there is any harm. tracy: where you put your money? can you pick a sector real quick for us? >> sure. i would say income. perhaps utilities. utilities is a good example. for the first time in a long time, utilities are yielding more than high-quality corporate bonds. we are at near record levels. ashley: thank you so much for joining us. tracy: if they do not fiscal fiscal cliff housing
people on the planet. >>> as for more immediate concerns, the fiscal cliff is one day closer, with a stalemate over heading off huge tax increases and deep spending cuts at the start of the new year. president obama and house speaker john boehner are keeping tight-lipped about those talks. in michigan on monday, the president warned going over the fiscal cliff will cost jobs and send the country in a downward spiral. >>> colorado is now the second state after washington in which marijuana is now legal. that became the law yesterday, when the governor put a voter-approved amendment into the state's constitution. the implementation of the law will be worked out by a special task force. in a statement, the u.s. attorney noted that pot remains illegal, though, under federal law. >>> well, family and friends are remembering that navy s.e.a.l. who gave his life to rescue an american doctor in afghanistan. abc's senior foreign affairs correspondent martha raddatz has more on the life of this fallen warrior. >> reporter: nicolas checque was just 28 years old. but for much of the last
's something that won't happen. short term spending cuts should be part of any fiscal cliff deal. the big news this morning is we're not going over the cliff. they have a bad hand. they're going to end up passing this middle class tax thing if that's the only thing they do. and live to fight another day. you can see the momentum building. not official but you see it. the difficulty for boehner still is passing the extension may be best of the options it is an option that a chunk of his party has said he would reject. the fiscal conservatives criticizing boehner's budget pr proposal. then you had senate republicans watching their backs, rejecting a u.n. treaty that bans discrimination against those with disabilities around the world. senator jim demint said speaker boehner's $800 billion tax hike will destroy american jobs. yes, he said speaker boehner. one party proposes increase in an effort to counter them. the other party's leadership proposes, wait for it, $800 billion in tax increases and then former alaska governor sarah palin blasting boehner's decision to remove some conservatives from
that you think that going over the fiscal cliff is in president obama's best interest. >> i really believe that. frankly, the lack of credible solutions and backtracking like the amount of spending. doubling the taxes he wants raised and the fact he wants stimulus package that he knew nobody was going to support here. doesn't look like he's trying to engage in ernest discussions, which leads me to believe he wants us to go over the cliff and be able to blame the republicans and maybe it's more about politics. >> congress people themselves said the election was a referendum on the president's ideas. part of that was the very clear message of tax hikes on the top 2%. >> that's great, but he didn't win my district and i did. so my mandate is something else. >> good appoint. >> if we only represent our own slices we'll never get anything done. >> you hit the nail on the head. what we're being asked is the republican conference, jump off the cliff alone. if this is going to be a deal, we've got to grab hands together and jump off together. they have got to put the long-term obligations on the t
week republicans made a serious offer to avert the fiscal cliff, and most of it was based on testimony given last year by president clinton's former chief of staff erskine bolles. as he said on sunday, we have to cut spending. well, he is right. washington has a spending problem. let's be honest, we're broke, and the plan that we've offered is consistent with the president's call for a balanced approach. a lot of people know that the president and i met on sunday. it was a nice meeting. cordal. we're still waiting for the white house to identify what spending cuts the president is willing to make as part of the balanced approach that he promised the american people. you know, where are the president's spending cuts? the longer the white house slow walks this process, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. here's what we do know. we know that the president wants more stimulus spending and an increase in the debt limit without any cuts or reforms. that's not physicianing our problem. frankly, it's making it worse. on top of that, the president wants to raise tax rates on many s
in the fiscal cliff crisis. it's getting quiet on capitol hill. 21 days remain before the tax hikes and spending cuts kick in, and congress breaks for the holiday, at least they are scheduled to, on friday. this is what you need to know. the president on the road pitching his tax plan to workers at a truck plant in michigan. house speaker boehner were conducting behind the scenes talks with the white house. and the posturing and finger pointing in washington suddenly stopped. we have more from washington. the sounds of silence may be the sounds of progress? >> potentially. we hope so. we don't really know. we're forced to read the tea leaves essentially, john, because neither side is giving details about the substance of discussions. let me read a statement from john boehner's press secretary. "discussions with the white house are taking place, but we have no detail to share about the substance of those conversations. the republican offer made last week remains the republican offer and we continue to wait for the president to identify the spending cuts he's willing to make as part of the balance
, health care and housing assistance are being called the fiscal cliff. the only way to i void it is for president obama and congress to make a deal, cutting spending and raising revenue. adding to the sense of urgency. news that 350,000 people simply gave up looking for work in the month of november. and while that drove the unemployment rate down to 7.7%, the fiscal cuts and tax hikes are expected to dramatically slow job creation and increase unemployment possibly plunging the economy back into a recession. let's go to dana joining us from capitol hill. the latest negotiations don't seem to be going anywhere. >> they sure don't. the house speaker ended the week by calling it a wasted week. he only had one phone call with the president of the united states and he said it was just, "more of the same." now counter offer to what the republicans put out during the week which was $800 billion in new tax revenue. so there's certainly a lot of frustration. particularly right now on the side of republicans who understand that democrats have the leverage right now. but on friday, the
just a distortion from the huge fiscal abyss. the fiscal cliff is a pothole relative to the size of our government. the our problem is a spending problem, principally driven by entitlement spending growing at 6%, 7%, 8%. now i'm fearful under the president's economic policy, the new norm is 1.5% to 2% gdp growth. that math doesn't add up. >> that's the thing. if that was the new norm, if i were in there, i wouldn't want to raise taxes but i get your point. you're going to run the financial services committee, an extremely important post. just in brief, sir, i'm sure you've thought about dodd-frank. i just want to get your basic take. what does dodd-frank mean to the financial system and to the economy as you see it, as you ascend to this position of chairman? >> well, i think the regulatory burden is huge and what dodd-frank has done is, number one, not addressed the true route of the financial crisis of '08, which was a lot of federal policies, frankly, that con joeled and mandated financial institutions to loan money to people to buy homes that ultimately they couldn't afford to keep.
spending. they said, quote: this is going to be a tough fight in the congress given the fiscal cliff. some members have not been friendly to disaster relief. but the care with which the package has been put together has given us a good head start. although that head start not good enough for at least one republican member of congress frank says governor christie made a responsible request federal aid based on careful comprehensive analysis of new jersey's needs having seen the devastation firsthand in my district during his visit. i'm disappointed president obama has come to a different conclusion. we should not short change nor add strings to the support residence, businesses and communities in my district and across the region desperately need and at least 125 people were killed by super storm sandy. right now the u.s. government saying sandy is on track to be the second or third costliest natural disaster ever behind hurricane katrina and close to hurricane andrew in 1992. clayton? >> peter doocy live from d.c. >> now for your headlines might be the biggest arrest related to that terror
in washington. speak up for the fiscal cliff is part of the half trillion dollars in cuts to the pentagon. the defense has been saying we will not plan for sequestration's because they don't want to be cautious because it is like a gun to the head. they're now looking into planning for this because we are getting pretty late, and that may become a reality. back to you. melissa: rich edson, thank you so much. lori: let's continue this discussion. it is going to happen, it is exactly what the democrats want. according to scott hodge of the tax foundation. what are some alternatives to raising revenue? joining me with some ideas. to your point, you're written quite extensively on this topic. it seems the economy is poised to fall off the cliff and that's what the democrats and the president wants to happen. >> they want to allow all the bush tax cuts to expire. it happens naturally automatically. they don't even have to vote for it. in january we had to lower taxes for everybody. getting it very simply. lori: a lot of people are concerned. if we do go over the cliff, there's no resolution fo
're not having a conversation about spending. the republicans and democrats alike designed the fiscal cliff. it's a series of bipartisan compromises and i think it's kind of foolish to think that this group of congressmen and senators is going to come up with a way out of something they themselves designed. >> rich, you worked for a republican speaker who went up against a democratic president over the spending issues. back then the face-off didn't turn out all that well for your party. obviously very different era. do you agree with eric's take? is the right strategy for republicans to stick to their guns, forget about compromise? >> no. i really don't -- eric is one of my favorite people. we talk a lot. but i think that, and i did work for the speaker gingrich during the shut-down fight in '96, and it did not work out well for republicans. the president has a much bigger bully pulpit than the speaker does. newt gingrich's bully pulpit was pretty big back in those days but at some point, republicans in the house -- and i think boehner is trying to look for ways to do this, speaker boehner, tha
agreement, is he not particularly interested in avoiding the fiscal cliff and he's clearly not interested at all in cutting any spending. >> reporter: but behind all the public posturing, there is still contact between the president's office and the speaker's people. and between the two men themselves. but everyone else is out of the loop. and there is some confidence, at least here at the white house, that they can find a solution. norah, charlie? >> bill plante, thanks. >>> november jobs report is out. rebecca jarvis is here. good morning. what do the numbers tell us? >> things are looking a lot better than we were anticipating. 146,000 new jobs created in the month of november. unemployment rate dips to 7.7% and there's two big reasons to why the report came out better than most people were expecting. first of all, the impact from superstorm sandy. it wasn't there. that's what the bureau of labor sta stisks told us. we thought it might have a significant impact. it didn't. second of all, a number of people gave up on looking for work. that's why you see the significant decline in the u
through the federal government for eight days. then you got another kind of fiscal cliff looming. do you believe that behind closed doors yesterday that the president actually seriously talked about spending cuts? >> i think he is serious about that. i think everyone knows they have to have spending cuts to go along with whatever is going to a. we should make the kind of deal and the kind of comprehensive deal that is going to get our credit rating back. we're not rated credit wise. they're talk being lowering it again. we should make a deal that will almost immediately get back our credit rating that. should almost be the standard. they know what that standard is down to the penny. that's the kind of a deal we should make. we should get our great credit rating back again. >> brian: just real quick, 'cause tonight talk about what china is don't, but rich lowry says the president wants gop humiliation and that's what's haul behind the 35 to 39% for the upper tax rate. do you see that? >> i'm not sure if it's for that purpose and maybe he believe it is and did he win an election, so you ha
on the fiscal cliff cuts billions in defense spending. colonel oliver north says that will lead to disaster. he is here next. and tony hawk is here to show us a few new tricks, including one for all those parents out there whose kids will think are cool. i don't know if i'd do it in the rain, but he can. he's a prompt but olympic gabby douglas is here. a huge show! i think shaq in the house, too. music is a universal language. but when i was in an accident... i was worried the health care system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. information on my phone. connection to doctors who get where i'm from. and tools to estimate what my care may cost. so i never missed a beat. we're more than 78,000 people looking out for more than 70 million americans. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. >> gretchen: 23 minutes after the top of the hour. james holmes expected to appear in court today. this will be the first time we look at him since he was taken to the hospital for a head injury last month after reportedly trying to kill himself. holmes accused of
of the fiscal cliff instead of engaging in serious talks to avert the cliff, that includes spending cuts and tax reforms the president once supported. the white house has only offered a joke. i understand we have speaker boehner to the microphones. let's take a listen. >> when it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. eight days ago secretary geithner came here to offer a plan that had twice the tax hikes that the president campaigned on. it had more stimulus spending than it had in cuts. and an indefinite, infinite increase on the debt limit, like forever. four days ago we offered a serious proposal, based on testimony of president clinton's former chief of staff. since then, there's been no counteroffer from the white house. instead, reports indicate that the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow-walk our economy right to the edge of the cliff. instead of cutting spending, the president want to raise tax rates. but even if the president got the tax rate hike that he wanted, understand that we would c
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over the fight in the fiscal cliff. americans face crushing tax hikes and severe spending cuts in 27 days if democrats and republicans cannot come together on a deal. by the way, congress breaks for the holidays in ten days. slash that number. in an interview with bloomberg news, the president made it crystal clear he's not about to blink on the issue of tax hikes for the wealthiest americans. >> we'll have to see the rates on the top 2% go up. and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> white house correspondent dan lothian joins us live from washington this morning. very nice to see you, dan. >> good to see you. >> here's the deal. we have republicans pitted against democrats. now we understand there are issues amongst republicans as well. >> that's right. they're in a tough spot here. they don't want to be in left in a position of being blamed for the fiscal cliff. you're seeing a division between house members and senate members. the reason for this is mainly over the 800 billion in new tax revenue. this was part of john boehner and plan. those tea party-backed co
's advertisers are displaying caution about spending because of the fiscal cliff. he'll be on "squawk on the street" at 11:40 eastern time. and netflix paying for exclusive rights to stream disney movies. a lot of happenings moving stocks in a big way. with pandora, analysts give pandora a pass but they keep putting out bright spots in third quarter that did come in better than expected. mobile monthization. >> this is the first company that came out and blamed the fiscal cliff. one of the few companies that would not be worried about the fiscal cliff because of great growth opportunities. could this be a competitive thing? >> i use them both. a huge fan of both. jpmorgan says it doesn't change the thesis. the theme is that they, like others, monthization and mobile continues to do well and you get guidance and morgan says it's frustrating. >> guidance was terrible. another disaster. it may be too early to buy pandora to put it in zynga groupon. groupon, i don't know if you call the deal today. it's awesome. one of three different i can do. >> you can get two in one day. >> i don't kn
the fiscal cliff but there is still no deal. right? sounds like deja vu. we have 20 days left to avoid the automatic tax hikes and spending cuts. >> reporter: good morning. there's never been more activity than we've seen in the last 24 hours but activity does not necessarily mean the country's averti any closer to averting the fiscal cliff. president obama telephoned house speaker john boehner tuesday afternoon.rnoo sources describe the exchange as tense. at issue a new republican budget budg proposal, one that came after mr. obama sent an offer to mr. boehner tuesday. before boehner took to the house floor to criticize the president. >> the longer the white house ze slow walks this process the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: mr. obama's new proposal lowered his request for tax revenue from $1.6 trillion in ten years to $1.4 trillion.trillion on tuesday the white house threw corporate tax reform into the mix, adding it to the already agreed upon push next year for reform of individual tax rates.dismisse boehner's described it as unrealistic
cuts that would be imposed by the fiscal cliff would be devastating. it would send unemployment higher. it would cost jobs. the republicans, as peter says, are going to insist on some cuts anyway, so bottom line is we are going to see a weaker economy into the beginning of next year. probably one way or the other. now, the counter to that, peter, is that there are forces in the economy that are strengthening it. this energy boom that we've got, the natural gas, the amount of fracturing that we're doing, the fact that housing has been doing tremendously well, and interest rates remain very low with prices, so there's some sense that there's a bit of a renaissance on the horizon, and if the government doesn't mess that up too much, 2013 could end up being as good as 2012 if not a little better. i don't know if you completely disagree with that, peter, but i think there's enough good going on that it could offset the bad. >> to you think it could go up to 10% unemployment. do you agree with peter on that? >> i don't know. i don't know if it will go go up to 10%. there are two scenarios. o
, he's not particularly interested in avoiding the fiscal cliff, and he's clearly not interested at all in cutting any spending. >> reporter: while democrats and republicans debate the size and specifics on tax increases, the two sides also remain apart on spending cuts, reforming entitlement programs like medicare and on the president's request to have greater power to raise the country's debt limit. but the news coming out of this one, "wall street journal" headlines saying that staff members from the president's team and from speaker boehner's team are genre assuming talks. we confirmed as of a couple of hours hag that that wasn't the case, so we're going to check on that right now. david: what they're talking about, we don't know. liz: maybe not dead in the water. david: thank you, rich, appreciate it. liz: we've got good news for all of you last minute shoppers out there coming up in the speed read. david: and up next, first on fox business, tom kloet, ceo of tmx group, a parent of the toronto stock exchange, on the impact of all these regulations coming out of our country. how wil
, spending cuts. that's what the fiscal cliff is all about. it would all start with the start of the new year. i want to get to senator jeff merkley. he's a democrat from the state of oregon. he's on both the budget committee and the banking, housing, and urban affairs committee. nice to have you with us, sir. thanks for joining us. >> you're welcome. >> thank you. before we get to fiscal cliff, let's talk a little bit about syria. there are now reports that they may be loading the components that would make up sarin gas. and i'm curious to know and i think a lot of people are watching this, does this mean that we are headed, the united states is headed into military action considering what we know about the red line, if you will, that hillary clinton laid out pretty clearly? >> it was very important for her to draw a very clear line. because any use of chemical weapons has to be responded to internationally. i'm sure the secretary of state is immersed with russia right now, is in negotiations with russia for a united front against this absolutely unacceptable possibility. >> okay. so she's l
governor howard dean says bring it on. going over the fiscal cliff will actually help america. he's going to make his case, very bold statement there, to someone whose company will be decimated by the spending cuts to defense companies. you do not want to miss this confrontation. ricans are alwayso work hard for a better future. since ameriprise financial was founded back in 1894, they've been committed to putting clients first. helping generations through tough times. good times. never taking a bailout. there when you need them. helping millions of americans over the centuries. the strength of a global financial leader. the heart of a one-to-one relationship. together for your future. ♪ >>> pretty clear apple stock is having its worst week in more than two years. let's get to bertha coombs with the details. >> tough end of the week ear. it's apple's horrible, awful week. today's decline saw shares hit a real technical weak point, the so-called death cross. that's where the 50-day moving average, the top line in yellow, crossed below the orange line. that's the 200-day moving average. a
of the fiscal cliff. let me take a look at that. >> no real reform. instead spending taxes. we neat bipartisan ideas we can all support. >> dana, is any of that going to make a difference or maybe a broader point is how much are outside groups generally, whether it's on the hill or on tv influencing this debate? >> if it works as well as karl rove's effort during the campaign, i think the president is going to ask him to run more of those ads because it didn't work out so well for him the last time. this is a little different from a political campaign in that spending by interest groups is probably not going to be big enough to crowd out all of this noise that's being made here. i think that interview you just had with tom price was extraordinary for what he didn't say. he didn't say i won't allow taxes to increase. he said it depends on what the overall package is. that's an extraordinary admission is for one of the most conservative congressmen in the house and i think it shows where these guys are headed. >> when you look at the polls and you see how the messaging is working, susan, and to
over the fiscal cliff or whether a deal is reached to avert that, middle class taxes are going up, and so is spending. so there's a lot of cynicism in this process. >> real quick -- >> that's why the president has the edge. >> bottom line, the republicans are poised to take a fall? is that what your numbers show you? >> they are poised to take a hit on this right now. longer term, tim pact will weigh on the obama administration if the economy doesn't recover. >> all right. many thanks, scott rasmussen, appreciate it very much. >> thanks. >>> with just 26 days until we fall off the tax and fiscal cliff, two dozen house republicans have apparently defected from the boehner plan and signed a bipartisan letter with democrats. people are now asking is there a fallback position for the gop? well, here now to tell us is house majority whip california republican kevin mccarthy, the number three man. mr. mccarthy, as always, thank you for coming back on the show. can i get your comment on this letter, two dozen republicans, they're talking about tax rate flexibility along with a bunch of d
of this is that some people are trying to downplay the affects of the fiscal cliff saying if we go over for a few days it will be okay. ceos aren't saying that. you look at third quarter gdp, companies are spending less money on software and equipment because they don't know what's going to happen. the effects of the fiscal cliff are already holding back some things. >> of course. what stood out to me from howard schultz, the people that need it the most, the average american will feel this to the core. confidence is the corner stone. >> it makes you make decisions, big decisions, small decisions. i'm not going to buy that or do that, i'm scared to death. here's my question for the two of you. are more big ceos falling in line with the yes, let's raise the taxes on the 2%? >> if i don't know if a majority. would you say a majority? >> i think they want a deal and people have to make -- it's hard to make compromises. >> we've heard it from goldman sac sachs, warren buffett, schultz. >> big names there. >> they want clarity. the interesting thing to me, the stock market and bond market haven't freaked o
which we're calling the fiscal cliff, when you have automatic tax increases and spending cuts, but as we, you know, the time goes, it's been three weeks since the election, i'm growing increasingly pessimistic. >> we're been talking about it on the show, chris, and brought up a couple of times that the president, if he does nothing, the tax cuts expire, and the defense cuts go into place, which is largely what the democrats want to have happened and republicans now making the argument. perhaps the president is not going to negotiate because he wants to simply step back and want things to unfold. do you buy that. i think he does want to compromise because if this were to go on long enough. i don't think it happens the first week after the fiscal cliff, but if you continue with this and all of the things that happen, all of the bush tax cuts expire, not only on the rich, but also the middle class, the spending cuts, about 100 million in the first year, you could grow according to the congressional budget office or unemployment back over 9% and the president clearly doesn't want that, but
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